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发表于 2013-8-6 19:23:16
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两点补充说明:
1、关于8.5.3条预防措施的记录要求。标准只有第8.5.3.d条规定,“记录所采取措施的结果”,其他各条都没有规定一定要有记录。譬如。第8.5.3.a条“确定潜在不符合问题以及它的原因”,没有必要一定要有记录。我前面说,如果做得好有记录当然也可以,或者说更好。没有也是符合标准要求的。其他各条要求也是这样。
2、上面帖子后面英文内容是疏忽带上去的。它对审核员如何为8.5.3条取得客观证据提供参考意见。现在翻译如下供参考:
An auditor should look for evidence that:
作为审核员应当寻求的客观证据如下:
• the organization has analyzed the causes of potential nonconformities (use of cause and effect diagrams and other quality tools may be appropriate for this).
组织(也许已经恰当地利用鱼刺图或者其他质量工具)分析过潜在不符合项的各种原因。
• the required actions are deployed in all relevant parts of the organization, and in a timely manner
所要求采取的措施已经及时在所有有关部门得到开展。
• there are clear definitions of the responsibilities for the identification, evaluation, implementation and review of preventive actions
组织关于识别、评估、执行和评审预防措施的职责已经有了明确的规定。
d) Records of the results of the actions taken
所采取措施结果的记录
• What records are kept?
维持了什么记录?
• Are they appropriate, and are they a true reflection of the results?
这些记录是否恰当?以及这些记录是否正确反映了各种结果?
• Are they being controlled in accordance with ISO 9001:2000 clause 4.2.4?
对这些记录的控制是否符合ISO 9001:2000第4.2.4条要求?
e) A review of the preventive actions taken
对所采取措施有效性的评审
• Were the actions effective (i.e. was a nonconformity prevented from occurring and were there any additional benefits)?
所采取措施是否有效(意思是预防发生的不符合项实际没有发生,而且除了这点以外是否还有其他的好处)?
• Is there a need to continue with the preventive actions the way they are?
是否有必要继续按照这样的预防措施继续采取下去?
• Should they be changed, or is it necessary to plan new actions?
是否应当变更现在所采取的预防措施,或者是否有必要策划新的措施?
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